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	<title>Comments on: Wang Lixiong: Reflections on Tibet</title>
	<link>http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2008/03/30/wang-lixiong-reflections-on-tibet/</link>
	<description>China and Other things</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2008/03/30/wang-lixiong-reflections-on-tibet/#comment-5864</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think WANG's point is not distinguish Tibetans. Tibetans Chinese had something that most Hans Chinese don't have, religion, even a living God. That's why it is asked by WANG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think WANG&#8217;s point is not distinguish Tibetans. Tibetans Chinese had something that most Hans Chinese don&#8217;t have, religion, even a living God. That&#8217;s why it is asked by WANG.</p>
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		<title>By: Geo</title>
		<link>http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2008/03/30/wang-lixiong-reflections-on-tibet/#comment-5427</link>
		<dc:creator>Geo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 03:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Han accounted for a much higher percentage of cadres in big cities than in rural area. Wang did mention that temples and monasteries survived best in the main cities (Lhasa, Shigatse) where "the authorities could still exercise some control".

To understand why the 'authorities' would not necessarily side with the radical Red Guards, you have to know the root cause of the Culture Revolution. CR was a campaign to purge 'the Liberal Establishment' inside the party. Both State President Liu and party General Secretary Deng Xiaoping disgraced during the CR. In Wang's book, he described how the Tibet Party Chief later died in the hands of the Red Guards.

It's impossible that a mass movement in such a scale would happen without either the incitement of Party 'activists' (Tibetan or not) or the participation of the local people, just like in other parts of China. Wang's question is, isn't Tibet supposed to be different?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Han accounted for a much higher percentage of cadres in big cities than in rural area. Wang did mention that temples and monasteries survived best in the main cities (Lhasa, Shigatse) where &#8220;the authorities could still exercise some control&#8221;.</p>
<p>To understand why the &#8216;authorities&#8217; would not necessarily side with the radical Red Guards, you have to know the root cause of the Culture Revolution. CR was a campaign to purge &#8216;the Liberal Establishment&#8217; inside the party. Both State President Liu and party General Secretary Deng Xiaoping disgraced during the CR. In Wang&#8217;s book, he described how the Tibet Party Chief later died in the hands of the Red Guards.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s impossible that a mass movement in such a scale would happen without either the incitement of Party &#8216;activists&#8217; (Tibetan or not) or the participation of the local people, just like in other parts of China. Wang&#8217;s question is, isn&#8217;t Tibet supposed to be different?</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2008/03/30/wang-lixiong-reflections-on-tibet/#comment-4665</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 02:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty interesting stuff. A bit contradictory in places, but the main message - that Tibetans (probably like most people) didn't understand the CPC's message in quite the way it was meant, sounds pretty convincing. The concomitant analysis of why Tibetans are now so "ungrateful" for the benefits the central government has brought them is possible, though not the only explanation.

One point that does seem a bit questionable: Wang says that the destruction of the temples "must have" had massive Tibetan participation; and yet in the 1970s Tibetans accounted for only 23% of leading cadres. I can accept that many Tibetan people did physically participate in the breaking up of the buildings. But can we really be sure that this was their own idea? Is it not equally likely that they were told (made?) to participate by Han superiors, and complied because the power of the clergy had been broken?

The point in the first paragraph is well taken, though. I had never considered this aspect of modern Tibetan history at all, before reading this piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty interesting stuff. A bit contradictory in places, but the main message - that Tibetans (probably like most people) didn&#8217;t understand the CPC&#8217;s message in quite the way it was meant, sounds pretty convincing. The concomitant analysis of why Tibetans are now so &#8220;ungrateful&#8221; for the benefits the central government has brought them is possible, though not the only explanation.</p>
<p>One point that does seem a bit questionable: Wang says that the destruction of the temples &#8220;must have&#8221; had massive Tibetan participation; and yet in the 1970s Tibetans accounted for only 23% of leading cadres. I can accept that many Tibetan people did physically participate in the breaking up of the buildings. But can we really be sure that this was their own idea? Is it not equally likely that they were told (made?) to participate by Han superiors, and complied because the power of the clergy had been broken?</p>
<p>The point in the first paragraph is well taken, though. I had never considered this aspect of modern Tibetan history at all, before reading this piece.</p>
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		<title>By: bandw</title>
		<link>http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2008/03/30/wang-lixiong-reflections-on-tibet/#comment-4000</link>
		<dc:creator>bandw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI, his wife is a Tibetan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, his wife is a Tibetan.</p>
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