Comments on: The BBC says a big “impartial” Fuck You to Gaza http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2009/01/25/the-bbc-says-a-big-impartial-fuck-you-to-gaza/ China and Other things Wed, 08 Feb 2012 01:33:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.3 By: Mick http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2009/01/25/the-bbc-says-a-big-impartial-fuck-you-to-gaza/#comment-59182 Mick Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:14:39 +0000 http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2009/01/25/the-bbc-says-a-big-impartial-fuck-you-to-gaza/#comment-59182 The problem is not so much that the BBC is spineless (which it is), but that the BBC is now expected to get involved in these aid appeals. Ever since Live Aid the BBC, other broadcasters and the whole entertainment industry have become Bono-ised. The BBC should go back to news and light entertainment. Leave the fundraising to the Jeffrey Archers of this world. The problem is not so much that the BBC is spineless (which it is), but that the BBC is now expected to get involved in these aid appeals. Ever since Live Aid the BBC, other broadcasters and the whole entertainment industry have become Bono-ised. The BBC should go back to news and light entertainment. Leave the fundraising to the Jeffrey Archers of this world.

]]> By: michael http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2009/01/25/the-bbc-says-a-big-impartial-fuck-you-to-gaza/#comment-59129 michael Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:38:39 +0000 http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2009/01/25/the-bbc-says-a-big-impartial-fuck-you-to-gaza/#comment-59129 Jews are the best! Hooray. Jews are the best! Hooray.

]]> By: domi http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2009/01/25/the-bbc-says-a-big-impartial-fuck-you-to-gaza/#comment-59072 domi Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:10:45 +0000 http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2009/01/25/the-bbc-says-a-big-impartial-fuck-you-to-gaza/#comment-59072 No, I am not troubled by the "double thoughts" at all. I am not the author. But I think you are right only in theory. If we apply your method to every 'problem', as it could and should be in theory, there would be no chance of public citicism at all. That's how this world works. For me, I wish people would hold a second before bashing BBC or China too. As protesting or criciizing China degenerate into an undertaking of 'shaming' this 'Country', it works against its proposed aims. But... No, I am not troubled by the “double thoughts” at all. I am not the author. But I think you are right only in theory. If we apply your method to every ‘problem’, as it could and should be in theory, there would be no chance of public citicism at all. That’s how this world works. For me, I wish people would hold a second before bashing BBC or China too. As protesting or criciizing China degenerate into an undertaking of ’shaming’ this ‘Country’, it works against its proposed aims. But…

]]> By: Jim http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2009/01/25/the-bbc-says-a-big-impartial-fuck-you-to-gaza/#comment-58952 Jim Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:15:53 +0000 http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2009/01/25/the-bbc-says-a-big-impartial-fuck-you-to-gaza/#comment-58952 No, you should just think on a bit before righteous outrage leads you to taking counter-productive positions on this or that particular incident. Sorry to ask you to hold two thoughts in your head at the one time. Have a cuppa and a lie-down if it hurts too much. No, you should just think on a bit before righteous outrage leads you to taking counter-productive positions on this or that particular incident. Sorry to ask you to hold two thoughts in your head at the one time. Have a cuppa and a lie-down if it hurts too much.

]]> By: domi http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2009/01/25/the-bbc-says-a-big-impartial-fuck-you-to-gaza/#comment-58932 domi Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:37:56 +0000 http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2009/01/25/the-bbc-says-a-big-impartial-fuck-you-to-gaza/#comment-58932 So we should criticize BBC 'constructively'. Sounds like 'how to banish China correctly'. So we should criticize BBC ‘constructively’. Sounds like ‘how to banish China correctly’.

]]> By: Jim http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2009/01/25/the-bbc-says-a-big-impartial-fuck-you-to-gaza/#comment-58816 Jim Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:36:16 +0000 http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2009/01/25/the-bbc-says-a-big-impartial-fuck-you-to-gaza/#comment-58816 I'm suggesting nothing of the sort and you've pulled that out your arse whole cloth (maybe a career in the circus beckons?). I've emailed and complained myself because I think they should have shown it. It's a ridiculous balls-up by BBC management. But to go from that into another frothing round of back and forth about BBC impartiality only helps the forces I identified above. I’m suggesting nothing of the sort and you’ve pulled that out your arse whole cloth (maybe a career in the circus beckons?).
I’ve emailed and complained myself because I think they should have shown it. It’s a ridiculous balls-up by BBC management. But to go from that into another frothing round of back and forth about BBC impartiality only helps the forces I identified above.

]]> By: rob http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2009/01/25/the-bbc-says-a-big-impartial-fuck-you-to-gaza/#comment-58814 rob Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:24:55 +0000 http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2009/01/25/the-bbc-says-a-big-impartial-fuck-you-to-gaza/#comment-58814 Jim, you would appear to be suggesting that the BBC's right to editorial independence means its viewers and license payers have no right to an opinion and no right to express that opinion. A very troubling concept. You are right to say that Gaza is not Congo. Neither of these are Kosovo either. You might remember this DEC appeal, broadcast by the BBC two weeks into NATO's controversial bombing campaign against Serbia and the mass flight and expulsion of Kosovan civilians: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuqhlPdRXfc&e" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuqhlPdRXfc&e</a> Do you feel that appeal compromised perception of the BBC's impartiality? Jim, you would appear to be suggesting that the BBC’s right to editorial independence means its viewers and license payers have no right to an opinion and no right to express that opinion. A very troubling concept.

You are right to say that Gaza is not Congo. Neither of these are Kosovo either. You might remember this DEC appeal, broadcast by the BBC two weeks into NATO’s controversial bombing campaign against Serbia and the mass flight and expulsion of Kosovan civilians:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuqhlPdRXfc&e

Do you feel that appeal compromised perception of the BBC’s impartiality?

]]> By: Jim http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2009/01/25/the-bbc-says-a-big-impartial-fuck-you-to-gaza/#comment-58809 Jim Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:52:25 +0000 http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2009/01/25/the-bbc-says-a-big-impartial-fuck-you-to-gaza/#comment-58809 Well done for carrying water for another attack on BBC editorial independence. We all know the BBC has all sorts of implicit biases, but that's mostly to do with being bien-pensant public schoolboys. If you can't spot the reason why they might treat the hotly lobbied Israel-Palestine issue differently to the Congo you're a moron. There's no sinister Zionist agenda, they're just copping out. In the cosmic scheme of things making a big deal of this won't mean much to the poor people of Gaza fucked over yet again by the IDF, but it will aid Murdoch and his ilk in their ongoing campaign to undermine public service broadcasting in the UK. Well done for carrying water for another attack on BBC editorial independence.
We all know the BBC has all sorts of implicit biases, but that’s mostly to do with being bien-pensant public schoolboys. If you can’t spot the reason why they might treat the hotly lobbied Israel-Palestine issue differently to the Congo you’re a moron. There’s no sinister Zionist agenda, they’re just copping out. In the cosmic scheme of things making a big deal of this won’t mean much to the poor people of Gaza fucked over yet again by the IDF, but it will aid Murdoch and his ilk in their ongoing campaign to undermine public service broadcasting in the UK.

]]> By: Alex http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2009/01/25/the-bbc-says-a-big-impartial-fuck-you-to-gaza/#comment-58805 Alex Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:52:56 +0000 http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2009/01/25/the-bbc-says-a-big-impartial-fuck-you-to-gaza/#comment-58805 You guys are so right. Israel should throw open the border with Egypt, so that the people who *should* be taking care of the Gazan people (their elected government, i.e. Hamas) can get back to spending all of their money on explosives to kill Israelis and luxury goods for their own leadership. Wake up, you twits. When they're done killing every Jew in the Middle East (their stated goal) they're coming for you next. You guys are so right. Israel should throw open the border with Egypt, so that the people who *should* be taking care of the Gazan people (their elected government, i.e. Hamas) can get back to spending all of their money on explosives to kill Israelis and luxury goods for their own leadership. Wake up, you twits. When they’re done killing every Jew in the Middle East (their stated goal) they’re coming for you next.

]]> By: Andy http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2009/01/25/the-bbc-says-a-big-impartial-fuck-you-to-gaza/#comment-58676 Andy Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:58:20 +0000 http://www.blackandwhitecat.org/2009/01/25/the-bbc-says-a-big-impartial-fuck-you-to-gaza/#comment-58676 It's outrageous of course. The thing is that Israel, impose a total blockade on the Gaza strip including land and sea. It's an occupied territory and to send aid in would be to openly challenge that policy - backed by the USA. Cynthia McKinney was on the boat trying to take aid in the first time, and was rammed. BBC = gov stooges. It’s outrageous of course.

The thing is that Israel, impose a total blockade on the Gaza strip including land and sea. It’s an occupied territory and to send aid in would be to openly challenge that policy - backed by the USA.

Cynthia McKinney was on the boat trying to take aid in the first time, and was rammed.

BBC = gov stooges.

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